[MD] the MOQ and its environment

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Heather Perella <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>:

>      [Platt]
> > Hardly a goal to be achieved because I can't help
> > but experience it even if I wanted to. DQ is direct
> experience.
> 
>      yeah, I was just commenting on how you said
> instead of intellect, one should experience dq
> (quality).  You made these separate by saying a divide
> exists between them.  I don't agree with the way you
> define 'divide'.  You say focus on quality.  I say
> your talking about dq when you refer to direct
> experience, for quality includes intellect, too
> (though static quality).  Intellect is NOT separate
> from quality.  Intellect is static quality, and yes, I
> agree dq is not a goal, and is direct experience.  If
> you are not defining 'divide' as separate, then I
> misunderstood you.  If you are saying 'divide' as in
> pointing out how intellect is a different aspect of
> quality and direct experience experience is another
> aspect of quality, then I agree.  By different aspect,
> I'm referring to how one may understand quality by
> coming from a the direction of static and one may
> understand quality by coming from another direction
> called dynamic.  

One understands Quality as experience prior to intellectualizing.  

  
>      [SA previously]
> > >     A rock is not paradoxical when a rock is
> > distinct
> > > and still left untouched as 'rock is dq'.
> 
>      [Platt] 
> > A rock is not dq. Rocks don't experience. Rocks are
> > senseless aggregates
> > or heaps, like a pile of dirt.
> 
>      So, rocks aren't reality.  What are rocks, some
> kind of Vulcan vortex world that helps water flow.  As
> much as you may try to define a rock, why not let a
> rock be untouched by your definition.  

OK by me. You were the one that defined rock as dq.

>      [SA previously] 
> > > I don't use S/O to define intellect and
> > > thus, discuss intellect.  A tree is brown.  Show
> > me an S and O in this intellectual statement. 
> 
>     [Platt] 
> > The subject (S) in the objective statement (O) "A
> > tree is brown" is the person
> > making the assertion. 
> 
>      Let go of your ego, and let the tree be brown
> without YOU having to make yourself believe you have
> to make that assertion.    

My ego isn't involved. It was you who asserted "A tree is brown."
But since you brought it up, my tree happens to be greenish-yellow.




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