[MD] Dawkins a Materialist

[David M]

Hi DMA/SA

I certainly take a lot of science on faith & trust
because I just don't get down to the lab like I used to.

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <spiritualadirondack at yahoo.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist


>    The horns are blaring.  Da,da,da,da!!!!!!!  
>     dmb demands a dictionary be looked at so, da, da,
> da, da!!!!!
>     The Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says after
> these comments by our fellow discussers:
> 
> 
>> [dmb to SA]
>> Do me a favor. Look at a dictionary and see what
>> those terms mean. Then look
>> up the word "faith".
>> 
>> [Case]
>> Gosh, Dave, maybe you should try that instead of
>> going ballistic every time
>> the term is used.
> 
> 
>     Quoted from the dictionary with numbers beside
> the definitions:
> 1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY
> 
>     SA:  Sounds like duty to Darwin until people
> actually noticed the evidence instead of Darwin's
> argument.
> 
> 
> b (1) : fidelity to one's promises 
> 
>     SA:  Sounds like string theory and all of its'
> promises.
> 
> 
> (2) : sincerity of intentions
> 
>     SA:  Scientists are sincere, but so are many
> people.
> 
> 2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God
> 
> 
>     SA:  Ok, here's dmb's argument about faith and
> how science doesn't have it.
> 
> 
> (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a
> religion
> 
> 
>     SA:  Again, dmb's argument.
> 
> 
> b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is
> no proof 
> 
> 
>     SA:  Darwin said fossil record is incomplete, so,
> we got to have faith according to this definition,
> right?
> 
> 
> (2) : complete trust
> 
> 
>     SA:  Darwin is a nice smart scientist, ya got to
> trust him completely, right?
> 
> 
> 3 : something that is believed especially with strong
> conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs
> <the Protestant faith>
> synonym see BELIEF 
> 
> 
>    SA:  Well, the especially religious beliefs
> doesn't exclude faith in science.
> 
> 
> (3) - on faith : without question <took everything he
> said on faith>> 
> 
> 
>     SA:  Scientists the world over did this with
> Darwin's gradualism.  But, as I said I don't know much
> about this and I believed dmb, especially in the faith
> is religious belief, yet, this dictionary, since dmb
> demands it be viewed says otherwise, so, maybe I
> believed dmb and was duped?  Well, as I like to say -
> I don't know, so, I realize others don't know
> absolutly either, thus, the do not get stuck motive is
> engaged.
> 
> 
> quiet, quiet, quiet dark night,
> SA
> 
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