[MD] Food for Thought
ian glendinning
psybertron at gmail.com
Tue Jan 9 07:55:21 PST 2007
Hi DMB, Arlo,
I agree with both of you there.
The conclusion "that SOM is something like a particular species of intellect."
Is exactly my view too. Which just leaves us with that issue of
agreeing the "distinguishing features" of intellect itself.
But, "we murder to dissect, and starve upon the residue" if we're not
careful with that analytic knife, eugene, etc. We need pragmatic use
balanced against over zealous analysis. Agree entirely with your
sentiments.
Ian
On 1/9/07, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
> DMB said:
> its seems obvious to me that SOM represents a flaw in the intellect and that
> the repair job can only be done by intellect
>
> Arlo replied:
> This I'm not so sure about. Can a non-S/O intellect rest atop an S/O mythos?
> Although Pirsig didn't make the S/I distinction, per se, in ZMM, he seems to
> argue their that change has to begin with how people live their daily lives,
> with everyday experience. Although, yes, if ZMM (or the MOQ) are
> intellectual patterns, and they are attempting to reorder social patterns of
> value, then it is, I suppose, an attempt by intellect to repair an S/O heavy
> foundation. Hmm...
>
> dmb says:
> I was also thinking about those passages where Pirsig talks about the way
> intellect can slice up reality in all sorts of ways. I suppose its a little
> too easy to butcher things if one is not careful, but basically I'm just
> impressed with the notion that chopping things up into subjects and objects
> is just one of many ways to slice it. That analytic knife can carve all
> sorts of things and the only question is how well does it work. Likewise,
> the map analogy says that the very same landscape can be represented in more
> than one way. This sort of flexibility leads me to conclude that SOM is
> something like a particular species of intellect.
>
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