[MD] Food for Thought

Laird Bedore lmbedore at vectorstar.com
Tue Jan 9 12:29:30 PST 2007


Glad to see so many others roping SOM (and its fruits) within intellect, 
keen to its outgrowth from a strong S/O mythos. For a while I got the 
feeling I was the only one working from this viewpoint.

"[S/O] is the predominant mode of the intellectual level, particularly 
in greek-derived cultures, but not the only mode."

Cheers,
-Laird

ian glendinning wrote:
> Hi DMB, Arlo,
>
> I agree with both of you there.
>
> The conclusion "that SOM is something like a particular species of intellect."
> Is exactly my view too. Which just leaves us with that issue of
> agreeing the "distinguishing features" of intellect itself.
>
> But, "we murder to dissect, and starve upon the residue" if we're not
> careful with that analytic knife, eugene, etc. We need pragmatic use
> balanced against over zealous analysis. Agree entirely with your
> sentiments.
>
> Ian
>
> On 1/9/07, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> DMB said:
>> its seems obvious to me that SOM represents a flaw in the intellect and that
>> the repair job can only be done by intellect
>>
>> Arlo replied:
>> This I'm not so sure about. Can a non-S/O intellect rest atop an S/O mythos?
>> Although Pirsig didn't make the S/I distinction, per se, in ZMM, he seems to
>> argue their that change has to begin with how people live their daily lives,
>> with everyday experience. Although, yes, if ZMM (or the MOQ) are
>> intellectual patterns, and they are attempting to reorder social patterns of
>> value, then it is, I suppose, an attempt by intellect to repair an S/O heavy
>> foundation. Hmm...
>>
>> dmb says:
>> I was also thinking about those passages where Pirsig talks about the way
>> intellect can slice up reality in all sorts of ways. I suppose its a little
>> too easy to butcher things if one is not careful, but basically I'm just
>> impressed with the notion that chopping things up into subjects and objects
>> is just one of many ways to slice it. That analytic knife can carve all
>> sorts of things and the only question is how well does it work. Likewise,
>> the map analogy says that the very same landscape can be represented in more
>> than one way. This sort of flexibility leads me to conclude that SOM is
>> something like a particular species of intellect.
>>     




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