[MD] Intention changes physical world (some questions)

[Heather Perella]

> [x]
> Empty yourself of everything.

     This is dynamic quality.

     [x]
> Let the mind become still.

     "mind" a static quality
     "still" a static quality, unless, you mean
undifferentiation, then dynamic quality, but in this
context with mind being still, then this just states a
static quality.  Dynamic quality is no-mind, so
nothing to still.


     [x]
> Quality rises and falls...

     static quality rises and falls, and dynamic
quality does nothing.  Dynamic quality doesn't do. 
How can nothing rise and fall?  Unless you are saying
nothing is rising and falling, but if something is
rising and falling, which you are saying here as
follows:

     [x]
> ...while the Self watches their
> return.

    What is Self?

     [x]
> IT grows and flourishes and then returns to the
> source.

     static quality does this.  Only static quality
has effort.  Dynamic quality is nothing.  The effort
of static quality to latch upon nothing (dynamic
quality) is dynamic morality: the code of art.  This
is static quality reaching for nothing, not aware of
itself, then back again aware of itself, refreshed,
this is the return for only static quality can return.


     [x]
> Returning to the source is stillness, which is the
> way of nature.

    Yes, static quality returning, trying to latch
upon nothing, upon undifferentiation and then all is
undifferentiated, yet again, snowflakes fall
everywhere.  This is undifferentiated being
differentiated.


 

> [x]
> what I'm coming to understand is that Tao is reality
> TE is quality

     Yes, I see you are saying Tao is everything
(which includes no-thing) and quality is just a
particular aspect of everything (which includes
no-thing).

    [x]
> Static and dynamic are the two aspects of TE
(quality)

     How can you make dynamic quality something
particular?  How can nothing be something?  Nothing is
not-a-thing.  Nothing can not be a particular, unless,
Nothing is a particular and still not a particular.

     [x]
> Static and dynamic  yin and yang
> Yin=Dynamic-female
> Yang=Static-male
> Always in motion

     How can nothing move?  In other words, how can
dynamic quality move?  Nobody could ever tell if
nothing moves, is still, even to rely upon the concept
that dq is nothing is not to allow the true
undifferentiation dq is.

      [x]
> Carrying matter and thought and embracing reality,
> Can you avoid separation?

   Yes, I have my moments.

     [x]     
> Attending fully and becoming supple,
> Can you be as a newborn baby?

      yes

     [x]
> Washing and cleansing the primal vision,
> Can you be without stain?

    No need to wash and cleanse primal vision.

    [x]
> Loving all men and ruling the country,
> Can you be without cleverness?

      never ruled a country.

      [x]
> Opening and closing the gates of heaven,
> Can you play the role of woman?

     I am creative.

     [x]
> Understanding and being open to all things,
> Are you able to do nothing?

     Nothing doesn't do.

     [x]
> Giving birth and nourishing,
> Bearing yet not possessing,
> Working yet not taking credit,
> Leading yet not dominating,
> This is Primal Quality.

     ok

     [x]
> The reality that can be told is not reality.

     dynamic quality 

     [x]
> Quality that can be named is not Quality.

     true undifferentiated dq

     [x]
> reality is the beginning of heaven and Earth.
> Quality is the mother of the ten thousand things.
> Ever dynamic, one can see the mystery.
> Ever static, one sees the manifestations.
> These two spring from Quality but differ in name;
> this appears as
> darkness.
> Subject/object metaphysics

     Static quality is dynamic quality.
     Subject is NOT object they are divided in SOM.
     Sq and dq are NOT word for word S and O.

     [x]
> The gate to all mystery.

     dq

     [x] 
> Under heaven all can see beauty as beauty only
> because there is
> ugliness.
> All can know dynamic as dynamic only because there
> is static.

     ok

     [x] 
> Therefore having and not having arise together.
> Difficult and easy complement each other.
> Long and short contrast each other:
> High and low rest upon each other;
> Voice and sound harmonize each other;
> Front and back follow one another.

      This is all static quality, except for
not-having.  Nothing does not-have, unless, you are
referring to static quality, a thing not-having.

     [x]
> Do you see this as fitting?

     What do you think?

      [x]
> I expierienced no-thought in
> Painting
> Martial arts
> Sports

     ok

 
> I have a lot to say about this.
> I have a lot of expierience in it's use.
> I feel it is very valid to the topic.
> What say you Marsha? You're a painter
> Thank you SA
> Your thoughts are important


     And yet these thoughts come and go...  


thank you, I am enjoying this conversation.


time to go to work, not a cloud in the sky,
SA


 
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