[MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed to mention religion

[David M]

Hi DMB

Good idea, I'm bored too. You kick us off and let's talk
mysticism and no one is to mention the R-word.How can
mysticism enhance the MOQ?

David M


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)


> Squonk predicted dmb's relply:
> You retort: That's rubbish. Is that the best you can do?
>
> dmb says:
> Exactly. T'was a big fat bucket of face-saving weasle words. Thank you 
> very
> little.
>
> We all know that Pirsig has described the MOQ as anti-theistic. He's said
> that only a mystic can rightly associate DQ and God. And nobody seems to
> have an intelligent argument for theism. So why does the debate haunt us?
> Why am I cast as the bad guy? For defending the obvious? Because I believe
> nonsense shouldn't go unchallenged in a philosophy forum? If it weren't 
> for
> the efforts of various stubborn and defensive theists this whole debate
> should have disappeared long ago.
>
> I'm with Arlo. I think we could really benefit from Joseph Campbell on 
> this
> topic and he illuminates Pirsig's work in other ways too. Wilber does
> mysticism too. But none of them are theists. I mean, there are intelligent
> things to say about that "spiritual" dimension but we never get around to
> that discussion because we're too busy bullshitting around with thing like
> "intelligent design".
>
> What a waste.
>
> What a drag.
>
> sigh.
>
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