[MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed to mentionreligion

[Ron Kulp]

Q: what did the mystic say to the hot dog vendor?
A: make me one with everything 

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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David M
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:16 PM
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mentionreligion

Hi DMB

Good idea, I'm bored too. You kick us off and let's talk mysticism and
no one is to mention the R-word.How can mysticism enhance the MOQ?

David M


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From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)


> Squonk predicted dmb's relply:
> You retort: That's rubbish. Is that the best you can do?
>
> dmb says:
> Exactly. T'was a big fat bucket of face-saving weasle words. Thank you

> very
> little.
>
> We all know that Pirsig has described the MOQ as anti-theistic. He's
said
> that only a mystic can rightly associate DQ and God. And nobody seems
to
> have an intelligent argument for theism. So why does the debate haunt
us?
> Why am I cast as the bad guy? For defending the obvious? Because I
believe
> nonsense shouldn't go unchallenged in a philosophy forum? If it
weren't 
> for
> the efforts of various stubborn and defensive theists this whole
debate
> should have disappeared long ago.
>
> I'm with Arlo. I think we could really benefit from Joseph Campbell on

> this
> topic and he illuminates Pirsig's work in other ways too. Wilber does
> mysticism too. But none of them are theists. I mean, there are
intelligent
> things to say about that "spiritual" dimension but we never get around
to
> that discussion because we're too busy bullshitting around with thing
like
> "intelligent design".
>
> What a waste.
>
> What a drag.
>
> sigh.
>
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