[MD] A thread for mysticism and no one is allowed tomentionreligion
David M
davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Fri Jan 19 14:05:07 PST 2007
nice!
David M
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tomentionreligion
> Q: what did the mystic say to the hot dog vendor?
> A: make me one with everything
>
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> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of David M
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:16 PM
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> mentionreligion
>
> Hi DMB
>
> Good idea, I'm bored too. You kick us off and let's talk mysticism and
> no one is to mention the R-word.How can mysticism enhance the MOQ?
>
> David M
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "david buchanan" <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)
>
>
>> Squonk predicted dmb's relply:
>> You retort: That's rubbish. Is that the best you can do?
>>
>> dmb says:
>> Exactly. T'was a big fat bucket of face-saving weasle words. Thank you
>
>> very
>> little.
>>
>> We all know that Pirsig has described the MOQ as anti-theistic. He's
> said
>> that only a mystic can rightly associate DQ and God. And nobody seems
> to
>> have an intelligent argument for theism. So why does the debate haunt
> us?
>> Why am I cast as the bad guy? For defending the obvious? Because I
> believe
>> nonsense shouldn't go unchallenged in a philosophy forum? If it
> weren't
>> for
>> the efforts of various stubborn and defensive theists this whole
> debate
>> should have disappeared long ago.
>>
>> I'm with Arlo. I think we could really benefit from Joseph Campbell on
>
>> this
>> topic and he illuminates Pirsig's work in other ways too. Wilber does
>> mysticism too. But none of them are theists. I mean, there are
> intelligent
>> things to say about that "spiritual" dimension but we never get around
> to
>> that discussion because we're too busy bullshitting around with thing
> like
>> "intelligent design".
>>
>> What a waste.
>>
>> What a drag.
>>
>> sigh.
>>
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