[MD] Dawkins a Materialist (is watching?)

[David M]

Micah said:

 The universe is neither designed nor intelligent

and Micah said:

> What "quality" isn't human? What "behavior" isn't human. Remember these 
> are
> human concepts placed on objects and animals by humans.
>
> Both religion and science begin with the assumption that reality exists
> without humans. One is used to perceive objective reality and one is used 
> to
> deny it, both are based on a faulty premise.
>
> Intelligence is what we say it is, nothing else defines reality, only
> humans. Design is also what we say it is, because like all mental 
> concepts,
> it resides within us, not without us.
>
> No humans = no reality (Quality).
>


DM: You claim to know that the universe cannot contain concepts
like designed or intelligent, but this universe you are referring to
is also one of these concepts so what is can or cannot be like
depends how you conceive it, doesn't seem to be a matter of
knowledge at all.