[MD] reality, experience, value

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Thu Mar 8 01:24:16 PST 2007


Greetings Kevin,

At the end of Chapter 8, in LILA, the section that starts, "A third 
major platypus handled by the Metaphysics of Quality is the 
"causation" platypus...".

So far, for me, the only thing that makes any sense at all is to 
cultivate compassion.  There seems no other logical or loving choice.

Marsha



At 06:05 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>Hello Marsha,
>
> > >Pirsig says Quality is an event that causes subjects and objects.  Is
> > >this a cause and effect perspective on reality, experience and value?
> >
> > Greetings Kevin,
> >
> > Somewhere in LILA, RMP replaces 'cause' with 'patterns of preferences'.
>
>Thanks for pointing out this clarification.  It makes a huge difference.
>Cause and effect connotes interaction.  Patterns and preferences indicate
>status.  So in going from ZAMM to Lila it sounds like Pirsig's perspective
>on Quality changed from seeing it as an event  to seeing it as value states.
>
>The paradoxes I shared all speak to transformation from one value state to
>another.
>
>      From weakness (adversity) comes strength.
>      We forgive to be forgiven.
>      We give it away to keep it.
>      We suffer to get well.
>      We surrender to win.
>      We die to live.
>      From darkness comes light.
>      From dependence we found independence.
>
> >From the perspective of the value states there is no meaning here.  They're
>actually quite silly.
>
>But from the perspective of interaction, experience and life there is powerful
>meaning.
>
>
>Kevin
>
>
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