[MD] -elitist ideas

[Case]

[Case]
I think I side with Platt and Kevin on this one. You can refine your
understanding of the interaction of rocks in such a way as to use the term
experience. But this strains the meaning of the term to such an extent as to
almost guarantee that its usage will be confusing and misleading.

Experience involves subjects and objects, whether they are the product or
the cause of experience. The interaction of rocks involves only objects and
is better understand as an event or an occasion. 



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Subject: Re: [MD] -elitist ideas

Quoting ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>:

> Nowhere did I say rocks or shoes experience social and/or intellectual
patterns,
> nor even biological patterns, necessary to experience pain and formulate
> post-experience reflection on the event (and of producing the sound
"ouch").
> 
> But rocks do experience inorganic value, its what holds them together,
makes
> them fall, etc. 

Just because we know what holds the elements of rocks together and makes
them fall doesn't say anything about what they experience, or if they
experience
anything at all, including other inorganic patterned rocks. 




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