[MD] -elitist ideas

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Kevin]
I see you and Platt are engaged in a conversation.  Please excuse my
interruption.

[Arlo]
Hi Kevin. No interruption at all.
 
[Kevin]
Ron's original post on this thread included a quote that was a commentary on
elistist ideas.  How is rock-experiencing-gravity not an elitist idea?

[Arlo]
I'm not sure what this question means. Perhaps you can help by answering, "how
is a rock-NOT-experiencing-gravity not an elitist idea?"

[Kevin]
I mean, how is rock-experiencing-gravity a "concrete, realistic life model."

[Arlo]
As I think I've said before, I attribute value/experience from Quantum Physics
to the tiny quanta themselves. And I think the MOQ supports this. Magnus made a
recent comment about philosophies that are too "life centric" (that may not be
an exact quote). Reality/experience does not begin with "life", it begins when
tiny inorganic patterns arrange themselves along the same principle ("it's
better here") as do latter arriving amoebas, platypi, humans, cities and
Physics. Their "experience", of course, is limited to the inorganic level, they
lack the ability to experience as would become available with the emerging
biological level.

[Kevin]
In a separate post by someone recently I remember seeing "cognizance" or
"cognizant" attributed to an inanimate object, as if to imply that the object
possessed conscious abilities.  ????  Is this what the Metaphysics of Quality
is saying?

[Arlo]
Not at all. Certainly if I'd suggested (as Platt attempts to imply) that rocks
experience on the same bio-socio-intellectual level as humans do, then perhaps
I'd be guilty of this. I mean, c'mon, are you saying I imply a rock has
"conscious abilities"? Rock-experience is limited to the inorganic level. If
you placed another rock nearby it would likely not experience this at all. But
place Jupiter next to it, and I can guarantee it would experience the
gravitational pull (among other inorganic patterns) and move towards Jupiter.
Of course, all it would experience are the inorganic patterns, it wouldn't have
a concept of "Jupiter" or anything silly like that.