[MD] experience

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Platt]
For the sake of common sense if nothing else I would interpret the MOQ as
positing that the inorganic patterns of value that "experience" inorganic
values are limited to particles, atoms, and molecules that are essential
components of the human brain...

[Arlo]
So an electron that is part of my brain "experiences", but an electron that is
part of a rock "does not"? Is "man" so special now that an electron that is
privileged enough to be part of a human brain is the only electron that
experiences at all?

Again, as I've said, if we truly hold that Quality is the Source, and this
value/experience is the stuff from which all things are built, then I see it as
quite absurd to deny value/experience (Quality) to all of nature, using the MOQ
as a guide for what is possible on each successive level.

[Platt]
How particles, atoms and molecules managed to evolve into organisms (whose
capacity to experience is hardly in doubt) is as much a mystery today as it has
ever been. Pirsig’s explanation of "betterness" is a good as any and
certainly better than "emergence" which explains nothing.

[Arlo]
Pirsig's MOQ is one of emergence. We've been through that. Biological patterns
emerge from collective activity of inorganic patterns. I'm not sure if you
think the MOQ brings some type of "extra-natural" intent into the picture, kind
of like a God that designed and then built "man", but I see no "intent" within
the MOQ.

Like Case has long offered, the MOQ is best described by "AHA!" (or maybe "AHA!
That's better!!!), where Dynamic advances appear and are latched and over time
these "AHA!" moments, after a bunch of false starts and failed latchings, led
to us. No pre-divined intent. No extra-natural "plan". Just lower level
patterns collectivizing, emergence, Dynamic advances and static latching.