[MD] experience

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Platt]
The electron in the rock experiences, but not the rock which you have claimed.
If you had said that electrons experience gravity I would have agreed.

[Arlo]
I'm not sure what the difference is in saying that all the particles of the rock
experience gravity, and the rock experiences gravity. This would be like saying
the human body does not experience gravity, but all of its cells do.

[Platt]
Since "all of nature" consists of particles, atoms, and molecules which
experience as demonstrated by their presence in organisms, I don't see your
problem.

[Arlo]
Fair enough. I thought your point was that only particles that are actively part
of a human brain experience. I was wrong, and it appears we are closer in
agreement that I had thought. :-)

[Platt]
I certainly see intent towards higher Quality, greater morality. If not, what's
the hierarchy all about?

[Arlo]
This, basically. 100 million years ago, was there a design to create man? 100
billion years ago? Where? And if there was no pre-design, then I can't see how
anything better than "AHA! That's better!" explains man's existence. 

[Platt]
You said it, "That's better." And you called it an "advance." The implication
that DQ is force for good is clear, "the ongoing free force of life."

[Arlo]
Sure. I just don't think the "advance" was "planned". The world got by for
hundreds of millions of years without "man". Our being here is no more special
than platypi being here. We have better skills, sure, but the fact that we
exist is no more intended than the existence of the platypus.