[MD] -elitist ideas

[Arlo Bensinger]

[Marsha]
In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use 
of  'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual).

[Arlo]
Because I don't. Where do you see me saying or implying this?



At 12:12 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
>At 12:04 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
> >[Marsha]
> >What about your use of 'betterness'?  It's a word you've used as an
> >equivalent of 'value'.  Doesn't this 'betterness' imply a comparative
> >(subjective) value?
> >
> >[Arlo]
> >Again, this comparative state is experienced within the confines of
> >the level in question. In the moment of direct experience, an amoeba
> >experiences value (in the case of the acid, this is experience as a
> >low-quality state). In that moment, I suppose you could say the
> >amoeba becomes the "subject" and the low-quality environment the
> >"object", but again this is not to suggest the "subjectiveness" of
> >the amoeba is anything like the complex "subjectiveness" we
> >conceptualize on the social and intellectual levels.  In fact, I'd
> >say the amoeba never experiences "subject/object". Having no symbolic
> >representation of "self" or "other", the amoeba is "trapped" in
> >primary, direct experience limited not only to inorganic-biological
> >value, but to pretty unsophisticated biological value as well (a
> >"wolf", for example, experiences a much more complex range of
> >biological value).
>
>Arlo,
>
>In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use of
>'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual).
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