[MD] -elitist ideas

[MarshaV]

Arlo,

Does the word 'betterness' imply a comparative value?

Marsha



At 12:34 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
>In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use
>of  'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual).
>
>[Arlo]
>Because I don't. Where do you see me saying or implying this?
>
>
>
>At 12:12 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
> >At 12:04 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote:
> > >[Marsha]
> > >What about your use of 'betterness'?  It's a word you've used as an
> > >equivalent of 'value'.  Doesn't this 'betterness' imply a comparative
> > >(subjective) value?
> > >
> > >[Arlo]
> > >Again, this comparative state is experienced within the confines of
> > >the level in question. In the moment of direct experience, an amoeba
> > >experiences value (in the case of the acid, this is experience as a
> > >low-quality state). In that moment, I suppose you could say the
> > >amoeba becomes the "subject" and the low-quality environment the
> > >"object", but again this is not to suggest the "subjectiveness" of
> > >the amoeba is anything like the complex "subjectiveness" we
> > >conceptualize on the social and intellectual levels.  In fact, I'd
> > >say the amoeba never experiences "subject/object". Having no symbolic
> > >representation of "self" or "other", the amoeba is "trapped" in
> > >primary, direct experience limited not only to inorganic-biological
> > >value, but to pretty unsophisticated biological value as well (a
> > >"wolf", for example, experiences a much more complex range of
> > >biological value).
> >
> >Arlo,
> >
> >In our discussion, I do not remember you limiting the use of
> >'betterness' to the two subjective levels (Social and Intellectual).
> >
> >m
> >
> >
> >
> >
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