[MD] how can you show objective reality is primary, objectively - without humans.

[Ron Kulp]

[Micah]
As I said before, objectivity requires two or more humans, therefore the
question stands; how can you show objective reality is primary,
objectively - without humans.

[x]

hmm, one single human with no other human contact, ever, assuming they
have the intellect we have, how can you show objective reality is
primary?

consuming objects to live and continue my reality could be
one.(air,food,water)

do not consume any object then tell me what is primary for existence.

plus humans did not just pop into existence from nowhere. as that you
almost compulsivly

tell us you are Atheist and free of any "clutter" you most certainly can
see your position

is contadictory.

but this is all tail chasing

value between subject and object is what is primary. 

I'm just saying that subjective reality is not primary or "absolute".

unless perhaps you can give me one example of an absolute, 

then I might be inclined to see things your way. other than that I think

we can put this one to rest.