[MD] the illusion of zero

Case Case at iSpots.com
Mon Mar 19 13:18:54 PDT 2007


[Ron]
is
.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
99999999999999999infinity
An absolute?

[Case]
This is one of those disturbingly little mathematical oddities. The number
you specify is actually, 1/3 + 2/3 = 1 since 1/3=.333... and 2/3= .666... It
believe this is some kind of proof the 1 = .999... but it probably does
indicate that 1 is not as absolute as I let on and it will keep me up again
tonight trying to make sense of it. I suppose the question is do 1 and
.99... specify the same point on the line and I would guess the answer is
yes except using 1 takes a whole lot less time.

[Ron]
1 works if zero is taken to mean something, an absolute. then every whole is
an assumed absolute But in reality it is'nt. math is meaningless until an
absolute is assumed.

[Case]
Actually 0 and infinity are special case numbers. The same rules do not
apply to them as to other numbers. The most glaring example is that you can
not divide by 0. Every number divided into 0 = 0 and every number divided
into infinity is infinity. These two guys don't play nice.

[Ron]
you have to have a cut-off
To precipitate a round then you may reach an absolute 1. but does reality
have a cut-off point To cause a rounding? Averaging is the closest we can
come to any kind of precision.
1 apple plus 1 apple may equal two apples absolutly but when you measure
the buggers
All of it goes to shit. one is redder one is bigger ect. You have kids,
you know
You can't give both your kids an apple without them bitching about one
has the better.
Even if the objects are seemingly identical, they know. 1 does not equal
1, 1 I say is an assumed value
For a whole in order for math to work.
Thanks for helping work this out, I invite argument on this.

[Case]
There actually is a branch of mathematics that covers dividing thing up like
this. I forget what it is called but basically when you are going to divide
say a donut between two kids. One gets to cut the donut in half and the
other gets to choose which half they get.

Trust me that one can say you some fist fights.

Now this one used to actually cause me problems. I would cut a kid a piece
of cheese. They would say, "Daddy, can I have two pieces of cheese." I would
say sure, cut their piece in half and hand them two pieces. It took them a
while to see through that but by the time they did they had comes to
eccentricity as normal...





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