[MD] What's missing

[Ron Kulp]

 [Bo]
"As I see it the new Testament Christianity is much
intellect-influenced, Jesus was a sensitive "antenna" who picked up the
signals from Greece and became a intellectual pioneer in the
social-value steeped Mid East (his "Christ" aspect is not my concern)
and one sees the intellectual footprint in his rebellion against Mosaic
Law. He claimed that the said law was for the good of humans, not the
other way round, and also claimed the equality of all humankind, "

[Ron]
I think from the evidence I've found, that Jesus was created in the
first century by greeks
A neoplatonic  analogy of the perfect form of man. I feel christianity
was created by neoplatonic
Philosophers, but that's another thread. Islam united the pagan tribes
of Arabia under mercy.
Mohomad demonstrated mercy to his enemies promoting unity and equality
through the mercy of one god.

Christianity is not without it's terrorism, was'nt long ago Belfast was
a war zone and london
Being bombed.
I feel it is a cultural clash not religeous but our religeons are so
tied to our culture that
It becomes difficult to distinguish between the two. Ideally, the Bible
the Quran and the Torah
All are about the same god they all say basically the same thing, it's
the accepted cultural 
Terminology and values that are clashing. 


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Subject: Re: [MD] What's missing

Magnus and all .

On 20 Mar. you admonished yours sincerely:

> Even if you're incapable or unwilling to understand my (and Case's it
> seems) view about the intellectual level, please keep your opinions 
> about Islam to yourself. The "fear tactics" you mention has nothing to

> do with Islam, but only the fanatics using it to promote their own 
> distorted version of Islam. Fanatic Christians are just as "relieved"
> from intellectual values as fanatic Moslems. So don't use the MoQ to 
> demote or promote religious beliefs, that's *not* what the MoQ is 
> about.

To promote religious beliefs is as far from my mission as possible but
the MOQ has a lot to say about religions which it relegates the role of
major social patterns. As I see it the new Testament Christianity is
much intellect-influenced, Jesus was a sensitive "antenna" who picked up
the signals from Greece and became a intellectual pioneer in the
social-value steeped Mid East (his "Christ" aspect is not my concern)
and one sees the intellectual footprint in his rebellion against Mosaic
Law. He claimed that the said law was for the good of humans, not the
other way round, and also claimed the equality of all humankind, all of
which goes squarely against the social credo that the individual only
has value by belonging to - and if necessary sacrificing itself for -
for the common cause. (On God's behalf of course). Islam and Judaism
have not had a "Jesus" to loosen their social bonds and only have the
choice between orthodoxy and apostasy. The intellectual aspect of Jesus
teachings only came to the fore after the Reformation and Enlightenment
so Christendom before this watershed were just as social-tied and
backward. In your definition of the intellectual level this does not
make sense, but the MOQ view leaves you and the SOM in the dust.  

IMO

Bo           




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