[MD] What's missing

[MarshaV]

At 07:51 AM 3/29/2007, Mati wrote:
>Marsha,
>
>If I may....
>
>MV.
>It seems you have been discussing 'pointing at the moon' versus the
>'the Moon'.  The MOQ as Intellectual ideas is the 'pointing to the
>moon'.  The Moon is a place where the rules of intellect are left
>behind.  Where a dualistic language is left behind.
>
>Mati: Perhaps I reading into this, but are you saying that real intellect
>has no dualistic perspective. I guess here is a question for you and the
>group, is it possible to have an intellect value that isn't part of a
>dualistic understanding of reality?

Mati,

I was suggesting that one can have a direct, nondualistic experience 
that is prior to, or separate from, intellect.   But then when you 
try to think or talk about it, you get tangled in the culture's 
dualistic static pattern of value.

It seems to me that intellect coexists with language, and in the West 
they are both predicated on a subject/object point-of-view.   I've 
wondered about your question too.  Maybe there are non-Western 
cultures that are not built on dualistic understanding.  Poetry is 
often non-dualistic.  Right?   Native American?  I would love to here 
from other too.

m