[MD] Chan and qi/eastern intellect

[Ron Kulp]

>Ron,
>
>And who has totally transformed into that awareness?  To me, the MOQ
>is an intellectual map explaining the view, but it is not the view.
>
>Marsha,
>Exactly, once you experience what is being explained it becomes
>something different. You no longer experience the finger, but the moon
>it's pointing to. No finger will ever capture the experience of seeing
>the moon itself.
>
>What do you think?

Ron,

I think the MOQ is a beautiful, intellectual map.  And as such, it 
should reside in the Intellectual Level.  The idea is not to look at 
the pointing finger and not to see the moon, but to _be_ the 
moon.  That would be an experience that couldn't be contained in any 
level.  It would be beyond words even.

Marsha,
I believe you describe the very thing that I'm trying to explain,
I couldn't have said it better.
-ron


>At 04:34 PM 11/8/2007, you wrote:
>
> >I think It is the finger conceptually, it is the moon in awareness.
> >
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> >[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
> >Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:33 PM
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> >Subject: Re: [MD] Chan and qi/eastern intellect
> >
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >Don't you think the MOQ is the finger pointing to the moon, a map,
> >world-view?
> >
> >Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
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