[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[Krimel]

[Krimel]
I am sorry but I have not idea what you are getting at here.

[DM]
Didn't they pick up certain stuff from the Greeks via the Muslims?
I'd suggest we need to deal with lots oif content here, some of it is
usefully called intellectual.Then we have secularism, reason, science,
empiricism, SOM, historicism, evolution, existentialism, democracy, etc, 
etc.

> DM
> Don't we need a name for the kind of culture that has replaced
> a mythic, theist, traditional, authoritarian and more static one?
>
> [Krimel]
> The Enlightenment, perhaps?
>
>> [Krimel]
>> I would argue that the important thing in Greece wasn't Socrates, Solon 
>> or
>> Pericles but Pythagoras and Euclid. It was the introduction of formal
>> proofs and a systematic rule based approach to the quest for knowledge.
>> But I would agree that Pirsig has done us no favor by claiming that the
>> Greeks invented intellect.