[MD] subject/object: pragmatism

[Ron Kulp]

And Ron, bringing in Peter's point (from Bo) ...

... is that the S/O distinction is itself a distinction of intellect
over social. What I  have inlcuded as "self-aware reasoning" would be
seen as more intellectual than just intelligent .... Some intelligent
things communicate symbolically, linguistically, without any signs of
self-conscious reflective reasoning.

I should work that into my summary.


Ian,
Good points, I was meaning more along the lines of not individual v.s.
The collective so much as what the individual experience brings to
The social/cultural table. Intellectual would be what the
Individual contributes to the society/culture.

And like you said "freedom of expression" plays an important role
In relation to cultural/social acceptance of individual expression
Which in turn becomes a factor in the evolution of said social/culture.
Pirsigs latching metaphor comes to mind.

-Ron