[MD] Freewill vs. Determinism?

[Joseph Maurer]

On Saturday 5 September 2007 8:06:58 AM Marsha writes:

Greetings,
Krimel mentioned the Freewill vs.Determinism problem. Don't these 
two concepts melt into Dynamic & static experience? Seems the 
either/or disappears into how tightly SPoVs are packed, and how open 
patterns are to Dynamic experiences. There is no 'I' to 
choose. Patterns of probabilities? Maybe. How do others understand 
this problem?

Marsha

Hi Marsha and all,

I am trying to avoid a body/soul division. Mind and will are attributed to the soul. I accept self awareness as an evolutionary level beyond the organic. IMO the initial moment of self-awareness is, I am empty, I participate in determined, cosmic evolution, and in free, conscious evolution. In looking at others I see valuable behavior creating a form to relationships. Law is realized and the social order evolves to the intellectual order. E.g.,the relationship between man and woman is both willing (I) and determined (it). IMO society evolves both mechanically and consciously on parallel courses to the intellectual level of law. Here cosmic (mechanical) evolution stops. 

Conscious evolution can continue in the individual into two more levels, a higher social level, a higher intellectual level together called enlightenment. After the intellectual level the cosmos has no more need for my awareness, but I do.

Joe



----- Original Message ----
From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2007 8:06:58 AM
Subject: [MD] Freewill vs. Determinism?


Greetings,

Krimel mentioned the Freewill vs.Determinism problem.  Don't these 
two concepts melt into Dynamic & static experience?  Seems the 
either/or disappears into how tightly SPoVs are packed, and how open 
patterns are to Dynamic experiences.  There is no 'I' to 
choose.  Patterns of probabilities?  Maybe.  How do others understand 
this problem?

Marsha


  

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