[MD] Freewill vs. Determinism?

[MarshaV]

Hi Joe,

I didn't understand the language of your answer.  Maybe I didn't 
understand my own question enough to ask it.  It might be time for me 
to adopt a strategy of painting sans chattering.

Thank you for writing.

Marsha




At 03:27 PM 9/8/2007, Joe wrote:
>Hi Marsha and all,
>
>I am trying to avoid a body/soul division. Mind and will are 
>attributed to the soul. I accept self awareness as an evolutionary 
>level beyond the organic. IMO the initial moment of self-awareness 
>is, I am empty, I participate in determined, cosmic evolution, and 
>in free, conscious evolution. In looking at others I see valuable 
>behavior creating a form to relationships. Law is realized and the 
>social order evolves to the intellectual order. E.g.,the 
>relationship between man and woman is both willing (I) and 
>determined (it). IMO society evolves both mechanically and 
>consciously on parallel courses to the intellectual level of law. 
>Here cosmic (mechanical) evolution stops.
>
>Conscious evolution can continue in the individual into two more 
>levels, a higher social level, a higher intellectual level together 
>called enlightenment. After the intellectual level the cosmos has no 
>more need for my awareness, but I do.
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2007 8:06:58 AM
>Subject: [MD] Freewill vs. Determinism?
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Krimel mentioned the Freewill vs.Determinism problem.  Don't these
>two concepts melt into Dynamic & static experience?  Seems the
>either/or disappears into how tightly SPoVs are packed, and how open
>patterns are to Dynamic experiences.  There is no 'I' to
>choose.  Patterns of probabilities?  Maybe.  How do others understand
>this problem?
>
>Marsha
>
>
>
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