[MD] Reet and the Weakest Link

Ron Kulp RKulp at ebwalshinc.com
Mon Aug 4 08:25:16 PDT 2008


Marsha & Platt,
Thanks, the Copleston Annotations are a gold mine.  (One wishes Pirsig
would have engaged
more modern, original thinkers like Rand or Wittgenstein.)
1) "Quality is a phenomenal reality."
2) "In the MOQ the state is a social pattern, no more."
3) "The MOQ supports intellectual freedom from the state but not
biological freedom."
4) [Ferrier's first move is to look for the absolute starting-point of
metaphysics in a proposition which states the one invariable and
essential feature in all knowledge, and which cannot be denied without
contradiction.--Copleston]  "For the MOQ this is, "Some things are
better than others."  Every infant knows this before he learns his first
word."
5) "phenomena exist independently of talk about them."
6) "there is no way you can disbelieve that there is such a thing as
quality.  You cannot conceive of or live in a world in which nothing is
better than anything else."  
7) [According to Green, to say that a thing is real is to say that it is
a member in a system of relations, the order of Nature.--Copleston]  "
The MOQ says experience is reality. It doesn't need a system of
relations to be real."

I still think "experience is reality" is too glib, out of context.
Better would be:
7') .  Experience doesn't need a system of relations to be real.  It is
already real.

Ron:
An excellent list Craig, I would say experience doesn't need a system of
relations to be real but it does require a system of relations to be
understood. (hot stove).






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