[MD] Social & Intellectual Levels

[Peter Corteen]

Hi Marsha,

I like your definitions.

'Analytic enquiry' conjures images of reasonable problem solving via subject
object logic for me; I consider subject object metaphysics as a slightly
whimsical intellectual practice. I can't reconcile SOM as the 4th level; SOL
yes, but SOM merely an indulgent diversion.

Also, the conditioning force of social convention sounds right on the nose
too.

I've lost my temper with some people in moq_discuss before now; when that
happens it's an indication that I've lost 'it'. No big deal, I can look for
'it' again. 'It', the overview, the MoQ point of view, enlightenment, is a
momentary thing; it can happen for me when I realise I have unconsciously
contracted my whole body and that my awareness of my self has shrunk to my
frontal lobe. Remembering my body is  the quickest way out of gumption traps
for me.

-Peter

2008/8/15 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Social & Intellectual Levels
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>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I would think that analytic inquiry is an intellectual tool (pattern) to
>>
>> develop better patterns.
>>
>> I'm a conventional girl, living in a conventional world.  And I'm not
>> sure I
>> have other choices available at the moment, or would have it any other
>> way.
>> How would one arrive at the conclusion that the MOQ is a better
>> world-view
>> than SOM if not for some good healthy analytic inquiry?  How would one
>> understand that entities are empty of inherent existence, if not for
>> some
>> good healthy analytic inquiry?  I'm not sure I'd be participating in
>> this
>> forum if it wasn't for my interest in analytic inquiry.  (But I will
>> admit I
>> like to whirl and twirl into the moonlight when the mood hits me.)
>>
>> I'm not getting your objection.
>>
>> Marsha,
>> This is because you are already there, My reply
>> was more towards those who are not.
>>
>> You have it Marsha, You understand.
>>
>> -Ron
>>
>
> Ron,
>
> I'm not anywhere.  I trying to see if the Intellectual Level and Social
> Level defined as follow works for others.
>
>
> Intellectual Level:  Thought (patterns) established and emerging from
> analytic inquiry.
>
> Social Level:  Thought (patterns) established by the force of convention.
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>
> Marsha
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