[MD] Social & Intellectual Levels

[MarshaV]

Hi Peter,

By 'analytic inquiry' I mean problem solving using analytical skills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_skills

While it's nice to suggest we should be all that we can be, motherhood, 
apple pie, &etc., it's just a slogan before enlisting in the army.

---

I am in a bit of a snit.  Think I'll blame it on the moon, and go for a long 
walk.

Thanks for responding.


Marsha



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Corteen" <psigenics at googlemail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Social & Intellectual Levels


> Hi Marsha,
>
> I like your definitions.
>
> 'Analytic enquiry' conjures images of reasonable problem solving via 
> subject
> object logic for me; I consider subject object metaphysics as a slightly
> whimsical intellectual practice. I can't reconcile SOM as the 4th level; 
> SOL
> yes, but SOM merely an indulgent diversion.
>
> Also, the conditioning force of social convention sounds right on the nose
> too.
>
> I've lost my temper with some people in moq_discuss before now; when that
> happens it's an indication that I've lost 'it'. No big deal, I can look 
> for
> 'it' again. 'It', the overview, the MoQ point of view, enlightenment, is a
> momentary thing; it can happen for me when I realise I have unconsciously
> contracted my whole body and that my awareness of my self has shrunk to my
> frontal lobe. Remembering my body is  the quickest way out of gumption 
> traps
> for me.
>
> -Peter
>
> 2008/8/15 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kulp" <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com>
>> To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 1:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] Social & Intellectual Levels
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> I would think that analytic inquiry is an intellectual tool (pattern) to
>>>
>>> develop better patterns.
>>>
>>> I'm a conventional girl, living in a conventional world.  And I'm not
>>> sure I
>>> have other choices available at the moment, or would have it any other
>>> way.
>>> How would one arrive at the conclusion that the MOQ is a better
>>> world-view
>>> than SOM if not for some good healthy analytic inquiry?  How would one
>>> understand that entities are empty of inherent existence, if not for
>>> some
>>> good healthy analytic inquiry?  I'm not sure I'd be participating in
>>> this
>>> forum if it wasn't for my interest in analytic inquiry.  (But I will
>>> admit I
>>> like to whirl and twirl into the moonlight when the mood hits me.)
>>>
>>> I'm not getting your objection.
>>>
>>> Marsha,
>>> This is because you are already there, My reply
>>> was more towards those who are not.
>>>
>>> You have it Marsha, You understand.
>>>
>>> -Ron
>>>
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I'm not anywhere.  I trying to see if the Intellectual Level and Social
>> Level defined as follow works for others.
>>
>>
>> Intellectual Level:  Thought (patterns) established and emerging from
>> analytic inquiry.
>>
>> Social Level:  Thought (patterns) established by the force of convention.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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