[MD] What is SOM?
David M
davidint at blueyonder.co.uk
Sun Aug 24 15:50:31 PDT 2008
Hi Krim
> [Krimel]
> What I have said is that experience is the product of these neural
> processes. Experience emerges from those patterns of neural firings.
> Understanding those physiological processes can add greatly to our
> understanding of how experiences arise. You claim not to deny natural
> processes but you do want to ignore them. I don't see a distinction there.
DM: All our ideas about natural processes derive from experience and
our imaginative atempts to make sense of this experience and to narrate
a story of how we have got to this point. We have to assume an understanding
of experience to understand how we can tell these stories and make these
descriptions. We start from experience to tell a story of how we got to this
point. We always have to start the story from here even if we are telling a
story that starts with the big bang but ends with how we got to the point
where we could start to imagine a big bang once began this story. Before
we can take seriously our descritions of natural processes we need to
understand how we do this, so we need to understand experience
phenomenologically,
we need to describe experience and how we create notions like natural
processes.
DM
>
> Furthermore, for all your talk of mysticism and the perennial philosophy
> you
> have precious little to say about their relevance.
>
> [dmb]
> Krimel. As I see it, you've still got zero points on the board. What is
> it,
> four to nothing? Five?
>
> [Krimel]
> OK, you win. I don't have time for playing games and keeping score. I love
> you death man but I sincerely have bigger fish to fry. You too will be
> disappearing shortly I suspect. Good luck with school. I hope you pay
> attention in your social sciences classes. Let me know if I can help.
>
>
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