[MD] What is SOM?
Krimel
Krimel at Krimel.com
Mon Aug 25 12:08:55 PDT 2008
You said:
Even Ham knows that experience is a personal thing. On this particular point
the MoQ is entirely in the realm of subjective. When each of us has an
experience that experience is primary and we as individuals infer subjects
and objects from it.
DM: I'd suggest that as we can only derive subjects and objects out of
experience as two categories that oppose each other then experience
cannot be taken as monologically subjective. If subjective and objective
are a division of what we experience, experience is the context of both
and it would be very odd to try and reduce experience to either one
of these terms as that would be to cut something up and claim a part
is the whole.
[Krimel]
I think this ability to see subjects and object (in a totally
nonmetaphysical sense) it one of the things that sets our species apart from
other primates. Arlo has brought this up several time in other contexts. We
can see ourselves as either subject or objects as static or dynamic beings.
We can see others as objects or identify with them as other subjects.
But I do think that experience and the differentiation of subjects and
object from experience only makes sense in the context of someone making the
differentiation. Meaning and purpose and understanding do not reside in the
inorganic level. They arise from biological processes which do have goals
and purposes.
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