[MD] What is SOM?

Krimel Krimel at Krimel.com
Mon Aug 25 14:27:26 PDT 2008


Joe:
I recently posted a quote from Maurice Nicoll who was a student of Jung,
Gurdjieff, Ouspensky. He posits:  ³Man is both in time and out of time.  Now
the sensual mind is based on time and space, but not the psychological mind.
We can say that only partial truth is accessible to the sensual mind². ³In
time² I took to be a description of the consciousness at the MOQ social
level.  ³Out of time² I read as a description of the consciousness at the
MOQ intellectual level.

In your opinion is this a phenomenological understanding of a description of
experience and how we create notions like natural processes?  IMO
Consciousness evolves.

[Krimel]
I think there is something to the quote you offer. I am not sure what the
difference between the sensual and the psychological mind is.

I would be inclined to say that Consciousness is the past's ability to
influence the future. Yes, I think it has been evolving but I see no
guarantee that it will continue to do so. I would say that is mostly up to
us. 







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