[MD] Consciousness a la Platt/Ham
ARLO J BENSINGER JR
ajb102 at psu.edu
Mon Aug 25 16:29:53 PDT 2008
[Platt]
Yes, Arlo is married to scientific reductionism wherein all emerges magically
by chance from "DNA-driven evolution" and "growing complexity" while playing
lip-service to the MOQ. Sad really.
[Arlo]
Oh yes, stupid Arlo. Why are you so incapable of answering my basic questions
then? Why run from them? At least Arlo gives honest answers.
If not "chance", then are you saying that a "plan" existed a billion years ago
to bring about "man"? Where did this plan reside?
You and Ham both agree that there was a time in the historic timeline when
consciousness did not exist, and now it does. You repeatedly use the usual
moronic glib "oops" to refer to my position. So I ask. What is YOURS? What
changed in the timeline? Do you agree with Ham that Qualigod (or Essiegod)
poofed consciousness into the primates at some point in the timeline?
I also assume you agree with Ham that "consciousness" evolved over historic
times. Since my views on how are so woefully stupid and sad, then please by all
means enlighten us all on your views. HOW does consciousness evolve over time?
If it ain't genetic, and it ain't social, then how did the primates of one time
have a more evolved consciousness than their distant ancestors? Do you support
the "new and better model handed out by Qualigod" theory? If not, HOW?
As for paying lip service to the MOQ, that's such a low blow that I am
embarrassed for you, Platt. I can, with exact detail, map my views onto the
MOQ. How do you map "poof" and "new and improved models" onto the MOQ? Since
all you seem to be capable of doing is deriding others, your claim here is just
pathetic.
[Platt]
Yes, there is always hope that he and others will see that there's a lot more
going on besides "neuro-biological complexity" and poof-like "unintended
consequences."
[Arlo]
Answer my questions and tell us all "what".
Answer us all as to "what changed" in the timeline that brought about
consciousness. All you offer is the Great Poof of Qualigod, is that what you
hope others here will see?
And I know you can't answer my questions. But have another go round at "stupid
Arlo", it makes good distraction, and maybe you can even convince yourself that
there is someone here (other than Ham) that does not see you for the charlatan
you are.
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