[MD] Consciousness a la Platt/Ham

Platt Holden plattholden at gmail.com
Mon Aug 25 16:54:03 PDT 2008


> [Platt]
> Yes, Arlo is married to scientific reductionism wherein all emerges
> magically
> by chance from "DNA-driven evolution" and "growing complexity" while
> playing
> lip-service to the MOQ. Sad really.  
> 
> [Arlo]
> Oh yes, stupid Arlo. Why are you so incapable of answering my basic
> questions
> then? Why run from them? At least Arlo gives honest answers.

Why do ask someone you consider a moron anything?

> If not "chance", then are you saying that a "plan" existed a billion years
> ago
> to bring about "man"? Where did this plan reside? 
> 
> You and Ham both agree that there was a time in the historic timeline
> when
> consciousness did not exist, and now it does. You repeatedly use the
> usual
> moronic glib "oops" to refer to my position. So I ask. What is YOURS?
> What
> changed in the timeline? Do you agree with Ham that Qualigod (or
> Essiegod)
> poofed consciousness into the primates at some point in the timeline?
> 
> I also assume you agree with Ham that "consciousness" evolved over
> historic
> times. Since my views on how are so woefully stupid and sad, then please
> by all
> means enlighten us all on your views. HOW does consciousness evolve over
> time?
> If it ain't genetic, and it ain't social, then how did the primates of one
> time
> have a more evolved consciousness than their distant ancestors? Do you
> support
> the "new and better model handed out by Qualigod" theory? If not, HOW?
> 
> As for paying lip service to the MOQ, that's such a low blow that I am
> embarrassed for you, Platt. I can, with exact detail, map my views onto
> the
> MOQ. How do you map "poof" and "new and improved models" onto the MOQ?
> Since
> all you seem to be capable of doing is deriding others, your claim here is
> just
> pathetic.
>
>
> [Platt]
> Yes, there is always hope that he and others will see that there's a lot
> more
> going on besides "neuro-biological complexity" and poof-like "unintended
> consequences."
> 
> [Arlo]
> Answer my questions and tell us all "what".
> 
> Answer us all as to "what changed" in the timeline that brought about
> consciousness. All you offer is the Great Poof of Qualigod, is that what
> you
> hope others here will see?
> 
> And I know you can't answer my questions. But have another go round at
> "stupid
> Arlo", it makes good distraction, and maybe you can even convince yourself
> that
> there is someone here (other than Ham) that does not see you for the
> charlatan
> you are.

Why do you ask someone you consider a charlatan anything?





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