[MD] Consciousness a la Platt

[Platt Holden]

SA:
 
> > [SA previously]
> > Well, I didn't use "blatant lies".
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > I did. After at least six (on my last count) times of
> > answering the same
> > questions I've been asking you and Ham, seeing nothing
> > but evasion after
> > evasion, this morning Platt wrote "Arlo can't even
> > answer a few simple, direct
> > questions." Perhaps Platt would care to produce one
> > question I have not
> > answered?
> 
> SA:  Arlo, your correct.  Platt was asked many times, and then tried to
> turn the tables on you.  I followed the whole thread.  Platt does go on to
> say, "Why don't you (Arlo) answer some of my questions?"  Platt this does
> look like lying.

Asking question is lying? How so?

> > [SA previously]
> > If you say these events happen, but don't provide an
> > answer - without even an
> > 'I don't know' comment, then what are you
> > holding back?  Thus, why I grouped my
> > answer with 'deception', 'hiding', or
> > 'learning something'/'in transition'.
>  
> > [Arlo]
> > He is holding back because he is not here for honest
> > dialogue, SA. As Pirsig
> > said of the Chairman, he is not a Truth-Seeker but a
> > propagandist for a
> > particular ideology. He knows the absurdity of his claims,
> > he knows they are a
> > theist revision, but he won't be honest about that
> > because then he loses the
> > ability to act like he supports the MOQ. At the very least,
> > Ham is honest in
> > his opposition to the MOQ, even if he too is incapable to
> > defend his absurd
> > claims.
> 
> SA:  I find Bo to be even the worse of the worse in this forum.  He's
> trying to hijack the moq for himself all together, and even tries to rid
> Pirsig from his own philosophy.  Pirsig did all the work, and now Bo wants
> it for himself.  I haven't read the Pirsig letter to Bo thread yet, but
> looking forward to it.

Again I'm surprised at your personal accusations. 

> > [SA previously]
> > >From my perspective, it's mainly been Ham, with his
> > "consciousness evolves"
> > comment and then his blatant disregard to comment upon this
> > quote of his.  He
> > probably doesn't even know what his own words mean. 
> > It's his track record. 
> > His 'mo'.
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Ham and Platt share this same theist
> > "Qualigod/Essigod" view. So the parallel
> > in questioning is natural. There was one that preempted
> > this one about
> > evolution, and that is "what changed?" I've
> > answered this several times, and
> > each time I get "no no no, stupid reductionist
> > Arlo". Fine, I said, if I am
> > wrong, if the physiologists are wrong, then what is right?
> > What, according to
> > the Qualigod view, changed during the timeline that left
> > "no consciousness" on
> > one side and "consciousness" on the other. My
> > view was assailed as "oops". As
> > moronic as that is, I don't care, but then I asked
> > "what do YOU think?" Both
> > have been unable to answer, as their only answer
> > "Qualigod poofed it into the
> > timeline" reveals not only their theism, but their
> > inability to even articulate
> > a decent theistic proposal. In the end, all that's left
> > is a sad dishonesty and
> > use of lies that really should be something they reflect on
> > in quiet. You see,
> > I too, SA, have hopes that somewhere inside there is
> > something that would be
> > ashamed at the chicanery they perpetrate here. But I am a
> > cynic, and you appear
> > to have more hope than I.
> 
> SA:  Arlo, I go on and on about Ham and Bo, and I've done this, especially
> with Ham, for over a year.  Bo likes the moq, but even that's deceptive
> for this kind of moq he likes is what he likes to think as HIS moq.  He's
> trying to take possession of the moq for himself.  When you find out about
> the moq he likes, it's not the moq I read in ZMM and Lila, it's Bo's
> hijacked moq.  His philosophy is not only tyrannical, it's a monstrous
> dictorial empire on the loose looking for geography to take over.
>       Maybe we're both looking for others to stand up more often and take
> notice of what's happening.  I like how Ron stands up to Bo, and how
> Marsha and dmb stand up to Ham.  I like how you stand up to Platt and call
> him out.  Anybody want to call out on me.  Peter tried to recently, but
> found he was mistaken.  I'm glad, though, we all stand up to each other
> and keep it verbal.  Saw on a website news story that police have arrested
> these men that were possibly planning to murder Obama for racial reasons
> and how Obama might actually become president - how dare that black man!
> (sarcastic)  Now, those people are takin' it too far obviously, murder...
> over his color, that's pretty gosh darn stupid, but I guess there are some
> pretty gosh darn stupid people livin' on this earth (and then I spit on
> the ground while I pull my pants up)... hahahha! [laughin' at myself; good
> night]

Far out.

Platt


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