[MD] What is SOM?

[Heather Perella]

Krimel:
> The effects of experimenter bias are exactly the kinds of 'values'
> science rightly tries to avoid. As both experimenter and
> subject these biases would be likely to have a huge effect
> on the outcome of the study.

SA:  dmb, wouldn't you say that Krimel, and Krimel might you agree, that what you (Krimel) say here is conflicting with what your saying below.
 By saying that


dmb paraphrasing Krimel:
> subjects and objects are inferred from experience BY THE
> SUBJECT, you reverse this central idea.


SA:  Krimel, your saying science does not include the bias of the experimentor, but then you say here that "subjects and objects are inferred from the experience by the 'subject'".  So by your logic, science doesn't achieve what you say it achieves.  So, what's really happening?  
     I also understand this is a side note to the central discussion about pure experience/dynamic quality.


SA