[MD] Core problemS

Ron Kulp RKulp at ebwalshinc.com
Thu Aug 28 09:57:08 PDT 2008



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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
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Subject: Re: [MD] Core problemS

At 12:06 PM 8/28/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >Ron:
> >Marsha,
> >what Krimel posted from Lila, contradicts what he wrote to Paul
turner.
> >
> >His statement :
> >"
> >They are discreet. They have very
> > >little to do with one another. Although each higher level is built
on
>a
> > >lower one it is not an extension of that lower level."
> >
> >conflicts with:
> >
> >" Just as
> > >every biological pattern is also inorganic, but not all inorganic
> > >patterns are biological; and just as every social level is also
> > >biological, although not all biological patterns are social; so
every
> > >intellectual pattern is social although not all social patterns are
> > >intellectual."
> >
> >Ron:
> >sounds like they have much to do with each other and they do extend
>into
> >one another.
> >
> >I'd like to know which it is.
>
>Ron,
>
>I don't get the concept of 'continuous' from Paul's letter.
>
>Marsha
>
>Ron:
>Despite that, they conflict. Drop continuous for now, it's superfluous
>to the argument.
>if the levels are separate, distinct and discrete, then the statement
>" just as every social level is also
> > >biological" is inconsistent with the term discrete
>as separate and distinct.
>
>If not, please explain how you see those two statements as
>meaning the same thing.

Ron,

Is that my choice?  Opposite?  Or the same?    To me, these are two 
different perspectives.  Please set up an example that falls within 
both paragraphs.

Marsha

Here is the argument , 

Why does Pirsig state that the levels are discrete
yet in the letter to Paul Turner he clearly describes them
as integrated?

All I'm pointing to is inconsistency in statements.








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