[MD] Core problemS

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Thu Aug 28 10:05:21 PDT 2008


At 12:57 PM 8/28/2008, you wrote:


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>At 12:06 PM 8/28/2008, you wrote:
> > >
> > >Ron:
> > >Marsha,
> > >what Krimel posted from Lila, contradicts what he wrote to Paul
>turner.
> > >
> > >His statement :
> > >"
> > >They are discreet. They have very
> > > >little to do with one another. Although each higher level is built
>on
> >a
> > > >lower one it is not an extension of that lower level."
> > >
> > >conflicts with:
> > >
> > >" Just as
> > > >every biological pattern is also inorganic, but not all inorganic
> > > >patterns are biological; and just as every social level is also
> > > >biological, although not all biological patterns are social; so
>every
> > > >intellectual pattern is social although not all social patterns are
> > > >intellectual."
> > >
> > >Ron:
> > >sounds like they have much to do with each other and they do extend
> >into
> > >one another.
> > >
> > >I'd like to know which it is.
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >I don't get the concept of 'continuous' from Paul's letter.
> >
> >Marsha
> >
> >Ron:
> >Despite that, they conflict. Drop continuous for now, it's superfluous
> >to the argument.
> >if the levels are separate, distinct and discrete, then the statement
> >" just as every social level is also
> > > >biological" is inconsistent with the term discrete
> >as separate and distinct.
> >
> >If not, please explain how you see those two statements as
> >meaning the same thing.
>
>Ron,
>
>Is that my choice?  Opposite?  Or the same?    To me, these are two
>different perspectives.  Please set up an example that falls within
>both paragraphs.
>
>Marsha
>
>Here is the argument ,
>
>Why does Pirsig state that the levels are discrete
>yet in the letter to Paul Turner he clearly describes them
>as integrated?
>
>All I'm pointing to is inconsistency in statements.


Ron,

I don't see an inconsistency in the statements.   I see each 
paragraph representing a different perspective.  Please set up one 
example that falls within the domain of both paragraphs, and lets see 
what shakes out.  Or not.  It's your conflict, not mine.

Marsha












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