[MD] Experience is not Quality

[ml]

Steve / Andre,

It seems that the same connection
or interactivity, which allows us to
experience, communicates quality.

The way I think of experience and quality
is, by analogy, similar to having a nice
egg sized rock, pleasing to hold, well
weighted, and with an interesting texture,
while I stand beside a mirror smooth
pond in the early morning.

On the one hand, rock, on the other, pond.

With one high arcing throw I hear the
kerplunk, and I can see the ripples spread
outward concentrically from the throw.
Neither the pond, nor the rock make the
ripples, but the "quality" of ripples arises
from interaction of both, together.

thanks--mel


----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Broersen" <andrebroersen at gmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:29 PM
Subject: [MD] Experience is not Quality


> Steve:
>
> The biggest stumbling block that I come across in explaining the MOQ to
> others is that people are unwilling to accept the fundamental  premise
> that experience is Quality. I see this as an unprovable axiom. How do
> you convince others and/or what convinces you that accepting this basic
> premise is good to do?
>
> Andre:
>
> Hi Steve, this is something that has bothered me for some time as well and
> must readily admit that my 'answer' isn't watertight and I am also very
> interested to hear other people's suggestion. I am reminded of one of the
> 'principles' NLP rests on and that is that 'People always behave in the
best
> way they know, given their intentions, which is always self-caring'.
>
> I have tried to explain, for myself, what 'motivates/drives me to do
things
> from the simplest movement of my finger to the making of important
decisions
> (sometimes these are conscious, sometimes unconscious) and inevitably I
> reach the conclusion: because it is better (than the previous 'state'. As
> Pirsig has said somewhere (don't know where) even getting out of bed is a
> response to quality i.e it is better to get up (if it isn't you'll stay in
> bed!).
> I nearly drove myself banana's once when I constantly asked myself the why
> question: why am I doing this? why am I doing that? and always came up
with
> the same answer: because this change has more quality (if you like) than
the
> state I was in before.
>
> Not sure if this helps but for what it is worth.
> Andre
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