[MD] Experience is not Quality

[Sharath]

Hello Andre,

Andre says>> I am reminded of one of the
'principles' NLP rests on and that is that 'People always behave in the best
way they know, given their intentions, which is always self-caring'.
And further -
Andre>>I nearly drove myself banana's once when I constantly asked myself
the why
question: why am I doing this? why am I doing that? and always came up with
the same answer: because this change has more quality (if you like) than the
state I was in before.

Andre, Some years back, I too was in the "why mode". I realized though it
had to do a lot with self caring some actions of mine weren't actually
meeting that ideal- eating junk food, smoking, not exercising and gettting
drunk[though it sometimes helps in giving you vision and clarity :p].
If you haven't already read, I would suggest you look up The selfish gene by
RIchard Dawkins. It clarified some of my Why questions..

As far as the MOQ is concerned I think it much more than self caring. To me
the definition of the self becomes hazy and I see it mainly as the
integration of the human being into the cosmos. My english is not very good
nor my knowledge of Moq,I'll leave it here for the experts in this group to
clarify all this much better.
ps: I generally found it is hard to convince people of the idea of MOQ
especially when they haven't read ZMM and LILA.
good day,
-Sharath

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>wrote:

> Steve:
>
> The biggest stumbling block that I come across in explaining the MOQ to
> others is that people are unwilling to accept the fundamental  premise
> that experience is Quality. I see this as an unprovable axiom. How do
> you convince others and/or what convinces you that accepting this basic
> premise is good to do?
>
> Andre:
>
> Hi Steve, this is something that has bothered me for some time as well and
> must readily admit that my 'answer' isn't watertight and I am also very
> interested to hear other people's suggestion. I am reminded of one of the
> 'principles' NLP rests on and that is that 'People always behave in the
> best
> way they know, given their intentions, which is always self-caring'.
>
> I have tried to explain, for myself, what 'motivates/drives me to do things
> from the simplest movement of my finger to the making of important
> decisions
> (sometimes these are conscious, sometimes unconscious) and inevitably I
> reach the conclusion: because it is better (than the previous 'state'. As
> Pirsig has said somewhere (don't know where) even getting out of bed is a
> response to quality i.e it is better to get up (if it isn't you'll stay in
> bed!).
> I nearly drove myself banana's once when I constantly asked myself the why
> question: why am I doing this? why am I doing that? and always came up with
> the same answer: because this change has more quality (if you like) than
> the
> state I was in before.
>
> Not sure if this helps but for what it is worth.
> Andre
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--Sharath



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