[MD] A fine mess

[X Acto]

Bo:
I'm an old man and can only manage it "once a day". Regarding the 
previous logic issue I can't see how it can be expanded. 2+2 is 4 in 
MOQ too, but it's premises brings an in-out-turn of many things. One 
major turn is  from SOM where intellect = mind to MOQ where its 4th. 
level = mind/matter distinction. As long as this isn't understood or 
accepted, the MOQ isn't understood.      

Ron:
First allow me to say that even though I lambaste you from time to time
I do respect your tenacity for these rigorous conversations, If anything
we have gained considerable ground in the past weeks.

I think one aspect that must be understood is that analytic is a system
of understanding the world around us. This system is only applicable
to it's own axioms and loses meaning and context when it ventures outside
it's own bounds. This is the limit you are running into when you adhere
so stringently to it as a formal foundation for the reality we expereince.
Science has broken itself out of these bounds during the past century
so one may say that SOM has already come to the Q realization
with Quantum physics and theory without the need of any philosophic
metaphysical restructuring what so ever.
The problem we seem to be facing is the social acceptance of these new 
intellectual ideas and meanings.
Western cultures Christianity dominated society is steeped in Platonism and Aristotlian analytic
based on the concept of one and only one truth and only one way to realize it.

This is what we are faced with, the power of peoples faith in the absolute and the familier,
what we offer to them is nihlist, atheist existentialist meanings in their eyes.

Two approaches, do we try to hoodwink them again with absolutes and familiarity (SOL)
or
Do we leave it up to the individual pursuit..(MoQ)

What I sense SOL to be is a kind of "bait and switch " tatic for the masses.
To wit I say, good luck with the switch part.

The Quality idea is one that may only be approached by the individual.
It may not be sold to the masses.