[MD] A fine mess

[Ian Glendinning]

OK Bo, let's start with something you do understand.
(The correspondence above was to Ron, not to you, you were not
intended to understand it. The response that was intended for you to
understand, to address the comments you made, you have not yet
responded to.)

But I can start anywhere you like, as simple as you like.
You said ... 2+2=4 ... let's start there.

2 "what" plus 2 "what" equals 4 "what" ...? What things ("objects" ?)
are we talking about.

For example, is it true to say two apples plus two pears equals 4
elephants ? No. So, that logic (true in general) is true in any
specific case only if we are applying it to consistent objects where
the arithmetic relations are applicable. If we go beyond arithmetic to
other forms of logical argument, similar questions apply ... yes it's
logic, but are we appplying it in a valid way ?

Do you recognize this as an issue we should be concerned with ?
Ian

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:35 AM,  <skutvik at online.no> wrote:
> Hi Ian
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> On 9 Dec. you said to Ron:
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>> Two great points in there, either of which I still live in hope of Bo
>> noticing.
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> I'm an old man and can only manage it "once a day". Regarding the
> previous logic issue I can't see how it can be expanded. 2+2 is 4 in
> MOQ too, but it's premises brings an in-out-turn of many things. One
> major turn is  from SOM where intellect = mind to MOQ where its 4th.
> level = mind/matter distinction. As long as this isn't understood or
> accepted, the MOQ isn't understood.
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>> (1) the social acceptance (received wisdom) angle of, err .. truth ?
>> (the entanglement of the socio-intellectual - cultural context -
>> levels) (2) the pointlessness of the metaphysical naming, when we are
>> talking about pragmatism, particularly the kind of enlightened
>> pragmatism we arrive at after the "experience" of such a huge amount
>> of intellectal (and rhetroical) effort.
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