[MD] A fine mess

[ml]

Ron,

Being would be UNABLE to interact 
with value, if value did not precede it.
(Being is the 'fish' in the 'ocean' of value.)

Denotatively, I think we agree, but the
statement: 
     Being is subordinate to value,
leaves a picture of one block atop another.
I think the more dynamic nature of being
and of value is highlighted, conotatively 
in the statement: 
     Being is interaction with value


The individual being, born into an ongoing 
world is value patterns that interact with other 
value patterns in the most basic levels of 
discovery. Illusion of self / illusion of other,
really just the difference between now and 
what came before.

...or something like that...

time for coffee, thanks--mel


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Mel,
My understanding rests on the fact that being is composed of value
therefore I find it necessary to posit that value precedes being
in correspondence with Pirsig. While being may be seen as
interaction with value (value interacting with value) I hesitate
to use this for it seems to promote the conceptualization
of entity and seprateness.
thanks
-Ron




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From: ml <mbtlehn at ix.netcom.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 8, 2008 2:18:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] A fine mess

Interesting.

Although it seems that it might be more helpful
to think of it this way:

Being is interaction with value.

thanks--mel

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] A fine mess


> Truly my freinds, our society suffers from the "Myth of Reason"
> By emphasizing this realisation, by focus on the contextual,
> we find value as the locus of truth that "I am" is subordinate to.
> Being is subordinate to value.
> 
> This is not so much a metaphysic but an awakening
> 
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