[MD] The End of Faith - Spirituality

[pholden at davtv.com]

Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:

> [Platt]
> "You go to any socialist city and it's always a dull place because there's 
> little Dynamic Quality." (Lila, 17)
> 
> "Any socialist city" doesn't mean the Warsaw pact countries. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Correct me if I am wrong here but according to your definition of socialism
> are Paris, London and Geneva socialist cities? Are you suggesting that
> Pirsig would find them dull or devoid of DQ? 

Yes and yes. 

> [Platt]
> OK. You asked and I answered, like your answer below. . 
> 
> [Krimel]
> Your answer avoided the question suggesting outside reading. I at least
> attempted to summarize and show the relevance to the point at hand. But left
> my be clear I don't really recommend to book or the lecture I cited I found
> them overly simplistic.
> 
> [Platt]
> Since you are interacting and helping me with references, I assume you
> are extremely happy with our "interpersonal relationship." 
> 
> [Krimel]
> I always enjoy sparing with you, Platt. But you are infuriatingly stuck in a
> rut and almost always wrong. But then happiness is not the only basis for
> interpersonal relationships just healthy interpersonal relationship. Ours is
> ever dysfunctional and I suspect subtracting minutes from our lives.

Gee. I thought you'd be happy just having a relationship. 

> [Platt]
> Your analogy is flawed. Societies don't get pregnant. Your logic is also 
> flawed. Government (the police and military) are needed to fight off 
> biological forces that destroy societies. 
> 
> [Krimel]
> My analogy is to the either/or all or none righteous proclamation you are
> given to making. 

And your assertion that I am "infuriatingly stuck in a rut and always wrong"
is not a righteous proclamation? 

> The police and military are rarely effective tools for dealing with biology
> the are forces used to combat force as a last resort.

On the contrary I think they do very well dealing with criminals. 

> [Platt]
> What is not needed is big government such as found in socialist countries.
> 
> [Krimel] 
> Where are these socialist countries again? 

All over Europe. 

> [Platt]
> I assume you read Lila.
> 
> [Krimel]
> Several times, but I suspect it was not at all the same book you read.

Which makes for our dysfunctional interpersonal relationship I presume.


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