[MD] Dawkins quotes RMP on religion.
pholden at davtv.com
pholden at davtv.com
Fri Mar 14 09:34:31 PDT 2008
Quoting Krimel <Krimel at Krimel.com>:
> [Platt]
> DQ is a moral force, NOT mathematical variables and operations. You should
> know this.
>
> "Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of realty, the source
> of all things, completely simple and always new. It was the moral force that
>
> had motivated the brujo in Zuni. It contains no pattern of fixed rewards and
>
> punishments. Its only perceived good is freedom and its only perceived evil
> is static quality itself-any pattern of one-sided fixed values that tries to
>
> contain and kill the ongoing free force of life." (Lila, 9)
>
> When science identifies a moral source, do let us know.
>
> [Krimel]
> My personal view is that this is another example of Pirsig's unfortunate
> choice of terms. He claims that a rock falling to the ground is a matter of
> preference and values and that using such sloppy terms doesn't change the
> meaning. But it does. It allows you to run around yacking about the lack of
> moral codes in science when Pirsig has just said physics IS a moral code.
> Math, biology, geology the whole lot ARE moral codes in the MoQ.
>
> In this particular context it is your impoverished notions of morality that
> the MoQ rejects not science.
You speak solely of static moral codes of the inorganic and biological levels,
a narrow, "impoverished" view of the MOQ. As for Dynamic Quality, "moral force,"
you and science have nothing to say except to deny its existence.
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