[MD] Pattern

[Marsha]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krimel" <Krimel at Krimel.com>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Pattern


> [Marsha]
> Sure I've seen those things on the television, but that's not my guitar
> experience.  I did love Jimi Hendrix.  Who didn't?   But I doubt that we 
> had
>
> identical experiences.  I'm sure we didn't.
>
> [Krimel]
> Ok, forget guitars for a second. You posted the YouTube link to Jill
> Taylor's TED talk. I watched it. I would say that our shared experience of
> this event has more in common than it we had both attended the conference
> and been in the audience. We both saw it and heard it from the exact same
> point of view. If we actually wanted to share an even more identical
> experience we could each watch in darkened sound proof rooms with the
> thermostats set to the same temperature. Even minor environmental
> differences aside our memories of the event are very similar and any
> discrepancies between what you remember and what I remember can easily be
> resolved by accessing the stored memory of the even that we both share on
> the TED site.

[Marsha]
That's just it.  How do you explain that experience?  What percentage of it 
was direct preintellectual experience that we could share?  Other than 
presenting the viewers with a brain and Ms. Taylor's body language, it was 
mostly analogy.  And how much of the experience was my static pattens 
overlaying and intermingling with Ms. Taylor analogies.  Yours, of course, 
would be different.

That's what I was trying to explain with the opposite-from-non-zebra as a 
static pattern of value.  It represents ALL my instances of zebra as opposed 
to a specific idea of a zebra.  I see a zebra and immediately my mind 
overlays my seeing the zebra with this zebra-spov (opposite-from-non-zebra). 
There is very little direct, unadulterated, preintellectual experience. 
It's is mostly generalization.  Empty space like in an atom.  The direct 
preintellectual experience is the NOW, the rest is warmed up leftovers.


>
> [Marsha]
> Want to talk more about guitars?
>
> [Krimel]
> Sure I'd like to hear about that German guitar. You say it has a bass neck
> and a six string neck? Is it acoustic? That sounds really awesome. Does it
> say who made it? Just how bad a shape is it actually in? Is it just 
> cosmetic
> gnarliness in the finish or does it have cracks.

I haven't been able to read the label properly.  It is heavy and has a metal 
bar in the body for reinforement.  It does have a gash, and a need to be 
tightened.  My grandfather died in 1948, and his strings are still on it. 
It's a mess.  Somewhere I have photos of my grandfather, wearing lederhosen, 
playing it.  He was quite the bohemian.  Their little group consisted of a 
violin, a zither and the guitar.


> I have an old Sigma guitar made in Japan and sold by Martin. This one is
> 1970's ish. It has cracks in the wood and bad spots in the finish but the
> strings are so low on the neck that it almost plays like an electric. It 
> is
> kind of a project guitar that I make occasional modifications too. I
> replaced the plastic nut with brass which gives it a touch of extra 
> sustain.
> I took a drill and modified it to have an electric pickup under the 
> bridge.
> Someday I plan to refinish it. I have loaned it out to my kids for years 
> at
> a time and when it comes back to me, I alter it. I like to take things 
> apart
> and put them back together and this thing is so financially worthless that 
> I
> can tinker with it and not worry too much about messing it up.

I like your stories.


 > I think it is this urge to tinker with even the nuts and bolts of a 
musical
> instrument that make me appreciate the things Pirsig says about the
> classic/romantic split. Perhaps that also accounts for why I think 
> something
> as sterile and soulless as a computer is an instrument for art and the
> expansion of awareness.

I'm thinking of buying a computer kit from TigerDirect and putting it 
together.  I like that kind of tinkering too, and from what my stepfather 
has said it is practically snapping the thing together.   I think technology 
is great.  It's not the gun that pulls the trigger, its the human holding 
it.  Usually a man!


Marsha