[MD] Pattern

[Marsha]

Greeting Krimel, Wizard the Great!

Are you in your cave writing poetry or conjuring a large effect?

see below...

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From: "Marsha" <marshalz at charter.net>
To: <moq_discuss at moqtalk.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Pattern


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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Krimel" <Krimel at Krimel.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Pattern
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>> [Marsha]
>> Sure I've seen those things on the television, but that's not my guitar
>> experience.  I did love Jimi Hendrix.  Who didn't?   But I doubt that we 
>> had
>>
>> identical experiences.  I'm sure we didn't.
>>
>> [Krimel]
>> Ok, forget guitars for a second. You posted the YouTube link to Jill
>> Taylor's TED talk. I watched it. I would say that our shared experience 
>> of
>> this event has more in common than it we had both attended the conference
>> and been in the audience. We both saw it and heard it from the exact same
>> point of view. If we actually wanted to share an even more identical
>> experience we could each watch in darkened sound proof rooms with the
>> thermostats set to the same temperature. Even minor environmental
>> differences aside our memories of the event are very similar and any
>> discrepancies between what you remember and what I remember can easily be
>> resolved by accessing the stored memory of the even that we both share on
>> the TED site.
>
> [Marsha]
> That's just it.  How do you explain that experience?  What percentage of 
> it was direct preintellectual experience that we could share?  Other than 
> presenting the viewers with a brain and Ms. Taylor's body language, it was 
> mostly analogy.  And how much of the experience was my static pattens 
> overlaying and intermingling with Ms. Taylor analogies.  Yours, of course, 
> would be different.
>
> That's what I was trying to explain with the opposite-from-non-zebra as a 
> static pattern of value.  It represents ALL my instances of zebra as 
> opposed to a specific idea of a zebra.  I see a zebra and immediately my 
> mind overlays my seeing the zebra with this zebra-spov 
> (opposite-from-non-zebra). There is very little direct, unadulterated, 
> preintellectual experience. It's is mostly generalization.  Empty space 
> like in an atom.  The direct preintellectual experience is the NOW, the 
> rest is warmed up leftovers.
>
>

To get back to Ms. Taylor's TED talk.  To disintegrate further any idea of a 
shared experience.  I would like to add that you and I are watching and 
hearing a computer monitor and speakers, not a woman with grey matter.  No 
TED stage.  No Ms. Taylor.  No brain.  Not even the same computer screen.

Isn't that strange?  So what about the experience do we share?

Marsha