[MD] Here come the censors

Arlo Bensinger ajb102 at psu.edu
Wed Nov 12 12:02:42 PST 2008


[Woods]
Arlo, instead of everybody having to fit into your paradigm why not 
consider something else for a change?

[Arlo]
Okay, Woods. What "something else" do you offer? What "paradigm" is 
it your position is advancing? Correct me when I am wrong.

Let's start with your initial claim "any weapon held by your 
neighbors should be able to be held by you".

The military are our neighbors.

Conclusion: if our neighbors in the military have Abrams tanks, then 
you should be able to have one as well.

That's not a new paradigm, Woods. That's simply saying there should 
be no line. Okay, fair enough. You want no line. I get that. Then why 
on earth do you have such a hard time saying this includes nuclear 
weapons? What about tanks? F16s? Bazookas? You want to talk in lofty 
and pointless abstractions, I am talking about the real and pragmatic 
ENDS of those abstractions.

[Woods]
Your a war-mongering tyrant it would seem.

[Arlo]
Ouch. Well, Platt would agree with tyrant, although I've never been 
called "war-mongering" before.

[Woods]
You question my morality!!!

[Arlo]
No, so far only your sanity. :-)

[Woods]
Nuclear weapons could destroy this world!  Are you freakin' kiddin' 
me?  We need to get rid of these nukes!

[Arlo]
Whoooaaaa... could it be? An answer finally??? It seems so! Let me go 
back and modify this, see if this is really what you are saying.

Let's start with your initial claim "any weapon held by your 
neighbors should be able to be held by you".

The military are our neighbors.

Conclusion: if our neighbors in the military have Abrams tanks, then 
you should be able to have one as well.

Modified Conclusion: if YOU are not able to have an Abrams tank, then 
the military should not have them either.

So it appears you are taking your "all neighbors" stance not to ARM 
the citizenry, but to DISARM the military!

Before this jubilation goes to my head, let me just get clarification 
from you that this is what you are saying. Because if it is.. then I 
fully retract all my black helicopter and paranoia comments and throw 
myself at the mercy of your forgiveness.

If this is what you are saying, then please chastise me at your 
leisure, I deserve it. Here I was thinking you were arguing to arm 
the civilians with nuclear weapons and tanks to fight off tyrannical 
armies, when all the while you've been saying the opposite. If so, 
I'm man enough to admit my mistake, Woods. Take your best shot then, 
I deserve it.





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