[MD] The Menu/Reality issue

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Thu Nov 13 13:01:06 PST 2008


At 03:16 PM 11/13/2008, you wrote:
> >[Marsha]
> >Parse, knowing, concept are analogies and static patterns of value.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >You seem to be chasing your tail. A pattern is a concept, which is a
> >pattern, which is a concept...
> >
> >[Marsha]
> >Even 'experience' is an analogy.
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >Analogous to what?
>
>Marsha
>Quality and experience are synonyms.  What I write will be
>analogues.  In dialog I'm trapped.  :-D
>
>[Krimel]
>So experience and Qualities are analogies? I thought an analogy was a set of
>similar relationships. It points to the similarities between disparate
>patterns. If Quality and experience are synonyms what are they analogies of?
>
>Marsha
>And I won't chase my tail.  No need.
>
>[Krimel]
>Claiming that you are not chasing your tail does not make your path any less
>circuitous.
>
>Marsha
>You are asking me to subordinate Quality to a language whose syntax is based
>on subject and objects.  Isn't that a trap?
>
>[Krimel]
>I am trying to decode the meaning of the language you are using. As we are
>not telepathic it would seem our options with regards to communication are
>limited.

Krimel,

I've explained my interpretation of SPoVs before.  I'm not sure that 
explaining again will make my explanation any clearer, but I'll 
try.  All SPoVs are named, conceptual analogues.  Inorganic and 
organic spovs are conceptual in nature but have as their _referent_ 
external natural phenomenon.  Social and intellectual spovs are 
conceptual in nature and have as their _referent_ other complex 
constellation of interrelated spovs.

Quality(DQ &sq) = experience = reality = value.  These words 
represent both the menu and the food.  Here is where my ability to 
explain in a reasonable manner gets lost.  I can discuss these words 
as spov, as definition, as the menu, but as food they need to be processed.

Marsha






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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a 
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