[MD] Trance state

[Andre Broersen]

Platt:

We're trying here to subsume SOM, but it's hard to the snap out of our SOM
trance. Just ask Bo. :-)

Hi Platt,

I am trying just as hard to penetrate this intellectual immune system called
SOM, which has been with us for a few thousand years ( the S/O division,
arising out of the social level became the intellectual level)
And the more I think about what Bodvar is trying to say, i.e saving DQ from
the tentacles of SOM (which is the absolute essence of the MoQ), the more I
think he is correct. To put it in simple language ( I like this because I am
simple and we need to understand eachother) The  DQ 'part' cannot be
intellectualised about, it cannot be part of the intellectual level ( the
big container into the little one? Ha! DQ gave rise to intellect!)

And, as Pirsig suggests DQ is 'half' of reality (in the Quality= DQ/SQ
split).

To then say, as Pirsig does, that the MoQ is (just) an Intellectual pattern
of values ( In opposition to SOM because the SOM doesn't recognise
values) is to reduce the MoQ to the SOM level because it cannot allow for
DQ. In my simple reasoning: it only allows for the SQ... and the SQ has been
raped by SOM!! IMHO.

If I misrepresent you Bodvar, please tell me,if I misrepresent Pirsig,
please tell me...I only want to understand the MoQ better.

For what it's worth
Andre