[MD] Trance state

[Ian Glendinning]

Craig, I know you don't see that with the MoQ there is no gap, that's
my point. The gaps are a feature of SOMism.

Only in SOMism do we think of "a metaphysics" as an object to be
defined distinct from reality.

I think your allegory is stretching the metaphysical point, But, in
the same way as in the poem you cite, the poetry and the tree are the
same reality, the real "trophy" in winning a tournament is the quality
(joy) of winning .... if it's winning that you value; there are of
course other joys to be had in participating. The silver-plated tin
thing is an object, a token in the SOMist world.

Ian

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:31 AM,  <craigerb at comcast.net> wrote:
> "I think that I will never see
>  A poem as lovely as a tree."
> (Joyce Kilmer)
>
> [ian]
>>  SOMist gap between a metaphysics and the
>> world it describes
>> The gap means
>> SOMism fails, when it comes to metaphysics.
>
> The MoQ might be a better explanation/description
> of reality than SOM, but I don't see how the MoQ
> eliminates the gap, as you require a successful
> metaphysics to do.
> It's like the alleged "gap" between the joy of
> winning the World Cup & the World Cup trophy.
> Craig
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